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L8MFU9: Welcome to your Meetup group! http://1.JotHere.com/q3x -2011.09.09pst1910 (~75% complete 1st draft, in use now, lots of useful info, needs review in last big section):
​Essential introduction on us, and for most any Meetup group you join!
  1. L8MGL0: “We’re a proud follower & endorser of Universal Rules & Guidelines for Meetup.com L2PFGY!”

    1. L8MGTI: In addition, per that, if we have additional rules & guidelines, they will be specified in our Home Page description and About page. To know these and…
    2. L8MGX3: Know what we’re about, now read carefully at least our group’s Home Page description and skim the the About page if you haven’t already done so.
  2. so as a consequence we have all the following:

  3. LA6GTJ: Impressive standard “Welcome message to new members”

    1. LA6GYT: http://1.JotHere.com/ah9 : in ASCII text, ready for copy-and-paste into your Meetup group’s “Welcome message to new members” field:
      ​“Text LA6GTJ​ updated pst2012.01.20Fr1922:
      .
      THANK YOU! for joining our Meetup group.We aim 4u2 hv a GREAT time +make our grp, now *ur* grp, Even Better!So we can KEEP u in our grp, NOW INSURE 5 THINGS:

      (1) MAKE UR GROUP PROFILE http://Meetup.com/<GrpName>/members/<UrMeetupMbr#> COMPLETE&ACCURATE(2edit,on it click “Edit group profile”) including 4 REQUIREMENTS:

      ​ (b) COMPLETELY ANSWER all non-optional profile Qs; note some Qs r really 2or3 Qs in 1
      ​ (c) 4ur profile name, u CAN use (pseudonym or (1st name+last name initial)) PROVIDED it fairly unique
      ​ (d) When viewing ur profile, click “Edit communication settings” then set all “Email me” 2YES (esp “Email me when this Meetup Group’s message board is updated” as we use only Message Boards as a lot more organized+updateable+wont clog ur email,unlike mailing lists)

      -ALL MEETUP GRPS APPRECIATE u doing these 4,&some also require.

      (2) RSVP TO AT LEAST 2 OF OUR UPCOMING EVENTS, ideally w/a enthusiastic constructive comments telling WHY as “YES: Love the DJ” or “YES: IF someone gives me a ride” or “NO: Cant stand DJ but enjoy”.
      ​ (3) CAREFULLY READ OUR GRP INTROS: both Our “Home” page including “read more about us” + Our “About” page
      (4) POST UR EVENT IDEAS: 4each,on our Home pg click “SUGGEST A NEW MEETUP”
      (5) POST UR RELEVANT NEWS&THOUGHTS in Message Boards.
      .
      *UR POSTS* ON OUR SITE (ur profile&event suggestions&RSVPs w/comments&news&more) IS WHAT DRIVES US & INSPIRES OTHERS 2also get involved & MAKES US THE GROUP U DESIRE!
      .
      Why all this? “We’re a proud follower&endorser of Universal Rules & Guidelines for Meetup.com L2PFGY!”: see “Welcome to your Meetup group! L8MFU9” http://1.JotHere.com/q3x 4more 2make the most of us&every Meetup group u join.
      ​.
      LkgFwd2 ur postings+seeing u@events!
      1. ​Some history & changes of this

        1. ​This template (to be used for multiple Meetup groups ) was the motivation for creating this document.
        2. L8MGIO: Move to here the content of quote[## KROOZH: “Welcome message to new members”] in Settings of UUYA! of Orange County,CA,US KRON1P
        3. LA6JWS: Created short-URL http://bit.ly/cumFSr to be used in the Greet “Per our new welcome page new-member email http://bit.ly/cumFSr#LA6GTJ please insure “YOUR MAIN PHOTO clearly shows representative image of your face” and “YOU’VE COMPLETELY ANSWERED all our non-optional profile questions”.” or “Don, your idea http://meetup.com/AsianFriendster/ideas/237094 caught my attention to you. Please do the 4 quick things on our new welcome page new-member email http://bit.ly/cumFSr#LA6GTJ Thanks.”
        4. ​Significant updates. Motivated & some detailed here. including replace http://bit.ly/cumFSr with http://1.JotHere.com/ah9 as that does better use-tracking & redirectable. ​
        5. ​2011-09-09 02:54:30 today, created “Main pic policy of Text LA6GTJ​ of Universal Rules & Guidelines for Meetup.com L2PFGY: http://1.JotHere.com/9va” for refs startign here
        6. .
    2. LA6GTW: Use this message to be (else prefix) your Meetup group’s “Welcome message to new members” in http://www.meetup.com/<GroupName>/manage/settings/members where it explains “New members receive an automatic email confirmation when they join this Meetup. You can add your own message to introduce yourself and encourage new members to RSVP for your next Meetup or fill out their profile.”
    3. LA6H1B: Some of the places where this is used (
      all of which are Meetup groups who announce & do “We’re a proud follower & endorser of Universal Rules & Guidelines for Meetup.com L2PFGY!”, providing this & more):

      1. LAKYL0: Meetup.com/OCPERL/manage/settings/members
      2. LAKYNF: Meetup.com/AsianFriendster/manage/settings/members
      3. LAKYPA: Meetup.com/UUYA-US-CA-OC/manage/settings/members
      4. LAKZ1Y: Meetup.com/OCUnix/manage/settings/members
      5. LBDXHE: Meetup.com/OCAndroid/manage/settings/members
    4. L99Q2O: Earlier text (once used by http://Meetup.com/UUYA-US-CA-OCwelcome) unalterted & be incorporated into above:
      HELP US GET TO KNOW YOU & VICE-VERSA!
      
      TO DO NOW (& ~every 6mo):
      
      (1) PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR GROUP PROFILE IS COMPLETE&CURRENT!! For every answer missing or incomplete, an organizer will likely be messaging u to kindly go back &complete it, so pls save everyone time & complete it now. On http://Meetup.com/UUYA-US-CA-OC/members click on your profile: if anything missing,incomplete,or outdated, click Edit & fix. Leading gotchas:
      (1a) INSURE YOUR PHOTO clearly shows representative image of ur face.
      (1b) ANSWER ALL Qs &COMPLETELY &w/ latest info. Note some are combo-Qs needing 2-3 answers!
      (1c) SELECT “Email me when this Meetup Group's message board is updated”! (as that's off by default). This is essential as we use only Message Boards (as they're a lot more organized & update-able,& won't clog up your email like mailing lists).
      (1d) For “Link” Q, pls give ur personal website, such as your social networking web page (on MySpace, Facebook, etc) or other web page or bio about u.
      (1e) For “Additional Information”, pls be sure to insert “See also my tiny Bio at http://Meetup.com/members/MyMbrNum ” where you replace MyMbrMbr with your member #.
      
      (2) PLS COMPLETE/UPDATE THIS TINY BIO (above) as it's shared by all your Meetup groups. Include the main school u graduated fr else are attending including your major & degree, the company or at least industry in which you work and your work title (what sort of work do you do), and ur personal interests & philosophies/values and perhaps what sort of people you especially like and want to meet.
      
      (3) BRING 1 or 2 PRINTOUTS OF YOUR PROFILE WHENEVER WE MEET, as it really helps everyone get to know each other. On one side print ur group profile and on the other side print ur main Meetup profile.
      
      (4) POST EVENTS,IDEAS, & DISCUSSIONS HERE! It's easier than you think. See http://Blogger.LoveRules.Info/2009/10/krl2tu.html#L3EGGB_Please_post_on_the_area
      
      Thx4helping everyone discover each other
      
      --Now watch the magic begin! 🙂
  4. In addition to “Text LA6GTJ … THANK YOU! for joining our Meetup group.”, some further details which just wouldn’t fit there

    1. ​RE “(1) MAKE UR GROUP PROFILE http://Meetup.com/<GrpName>/members/<UrMeetupMbr#> COMPLETE&ACCURATE“​

      1. LAKY95:OPTIONAL:
        1. LAKZEW: For “Link” give ur main web profile (as ur MySpace/Facebook).
        2. LAKZF5: For “Additional Information” insert “See also my main Meetup profile &bio at http://Meetup.com/members/<YourMeetupMember#> ”
        3. LAKZFD: PLS COMPLETE/UPDATE THIS TINY BIO (above) as it’s shared by all your Meetup groups. Include the main school u graduated fr else are attending including your major & degree, the company or at least industry in which you work and your work title (what sort of work do you do), and ur personal interests & philosophies/values and perhaps what sort of people you especially like and want to meet.
      2. ​RE “esp[ say YES2] “Email me when this Meetup Group’s message board is updated””​

        1. LAKZQ0: -absolute minimal email: only results in at most 1 email being set to you today, no matter how many groups you join
        2. LAKZR4: -tragically off by default, why we have to remind everyone
        3. LAKZJX: to edit this and other communication settings, when viewing ur group profile, click “Edit email settings” http://Meetup.com/<GroupName>/settings
        4. ​Outdated refs:

          1. L8O3EO:SELECT “Email me when this Meetup Group’s message board is updated”
            1. LAKZIT: -key as we use only Message Boards (unlike mailing lists, a lot more organized &update-able &won’t clog up ur email).
      3. ​Outdated refs: ​

        1. LAKXXT:Please insure YOUR GROUP PROFILE http://Meetup.com/<YourGroupName>/members/<YourMeetupMember#> IS COMPLETE & ACCURATE, including
          1. LAKY4F: YOUR MAIN PHOTO clearly shows your face as you appear in person
          2. LAKY7W: U’VE COMPLETELY ANSWERED all our non-optional profile Qs; note some Qs are really 2 or 3Qs in 1
    2. ​RE “*UR POSTS* ON OUR SITE …MAKES US THE GROUP U DESIRE!“​

      ​see the important expansion of this idea at for your group’s heart beat, we’re counting on you personally
  5. L8MH71: This group is gets its life-blood from you, yes, you its member. So, for your group’s heart beat, we’re counting on you personally to

    (1) RSVP & constructively speak-up,

    (2) post thoughts & news & event-suggestions, and

    (3) volunteer to help

    1. L8MHEV: By this, you decide your group’s fate…

      1. L8MHG0: If you do this, we your group will become the group you want us to be.
      2. If you don’t do this (and no one else is besides the organizers and less than 10% of the others), then your group here will likely eventually die.
      3. You make that decision! So constructively SPEAK-UP!If this group is to be a success for you (and for everyone), we all are depending on you to speak up, and suggest activities (use our Ideas menu), and volunteer to host or help with an activity.
      4. L8R6VR: Just keep quiet & lurk about? –No way! Now that you’re a member, don’t even think about doing that. As a member, your job is to constructively speak up & volunteer!
    2. L8P6O9: Replying, volunteering, and giving constructive feedback, especially when no one else is, is just living up to good moral principles.

      1. L8P6SD:For instance,
        1. L8P6U9: Live up to The Golden Rule (“Do onto others as you’d have them do onto you”)
        2. L8P6P7: Live up to UU principles #1&2 (“The inherent worth and dignity of every person” & “Justice, equity and compassion in human relations”)
        3. L8P7ZM:If you just reply (and in complete & timely fashion), then you spare yourself from being reminded to do (including additional messages) so plus spare others (organizers, leaders, and other askers) the work to remind you (which is significant in as a group grows)
    3. L8MHRN: GOLDEN SUPPORT RULE: The less you see some event/group/person getting constructive feedback/responses/volunteers, the more you need to give them constructive feedback/responses/volunteers.

      1. L8MI3S: Fight the sheep mentality to only go & act when & where everyone else is doing it, too.
      2. L8MHUV: If hardly no one else responding, your group event/person is in trouble so you definitely need to be one of the first. Seaze the opportunity to be the first to speak up & the first to say or do something.
      3. L8MHWW: Only if you and/or sufficient others have told them clearly and they’re still not appropriately responsive, only then do you have a legit excuse not to reply.
      4. L8O2ZT: Generally the smaller the group, the more the need for your constructive feedback/responses/volunteering

        1. L8O304: Groups such as UU* YOUNG ADULTS! of OC (with 28 members and) and OC Perl (with just 15 member), both with just 1 organizer, need virtually everyone’s feedback in order to survive.
        2. L8O30D: But sometimes big groups are in this situation, too: AsianFriendster, despite it currently having 270 members and 2 organizers, also needs your feedback & volunteering (if you’re on it) as as the prior 232 members were burnt out by poor events of the prior organizers.
        3. L8O3CM: But generally bigger groups, as OC Good Life with 1469 members and 20 organizers, has plenty of feedback (~20 to 100 RSVP YES per event!), so you can often skip giving feedback to (but still do RSVP YES if you’re going to attend) as these smaller budding groups are where your constructive feedback is needed.
      5. L8N6WL: Overall, less you see it happening, the more the need for your replies and constructive feedback & volunteering

    4. L8MHCY: First, to our event invites, RSVP (and with constructive comments)

      1. L8O3E5 Simply don’t bother to RSVP? Don’t even think about doing that! Yes, even if you’re not coming, in general, you need to RSVP.

        1. L8O8J7: On Meetup, RSVPs are visible to all group members (and often the world); so your group has event which isn’t getting RSVPs with constructive comments, then you’re group looks bad to the world — don’t stand for that! RSVP with constructive comment.
      2. L8O3EI: Don’t just say “YES|NO|MAYBE”: Give a constructive comment saying why you’re coming or not and what interests/disinterests you in the event, especially important (and polite) if you’re saying “NO”.

        1. L8R2VN: For instance,
          1. L8R65D: UUYA! of OC member Craig P RSVPed NO with “I will be out of town but I like the spirit of this. Thanks.”.
          2. L8R67B: I’ve often RSVP’d NO with “I’m in S. OC so LA is a +1hr drive for me, but enjoy!”
        2. L8R2YX:Three good rules of thumb (the NO|MAYBE|YES rules):
          1. L8R746: Never say NO without a constructive comment(saying why you’re not coming and your interest/disinterest in the event)
            1. NO without a constructive comment too easily looks like you’re putting down the event & group and hurts your group.
            2. NO with a constructive comment counts your vote in to get events changed to what you need them to be.
          2. L8R752: When saying MAYBE, also include in your constructive comment what it depends on (again why you may or may not be coming, and what interests/disinterests you)
          3. L8R7D0: Even when saying YES, it’s nice to your group to take a few seconds to write a constructive comment (again why you’re coming, and what interests/disinterests you)
        3. L8R636: …as your RSVP comment feedback is:
          1. L8R7IQ: very useful, especially when something needs fixed or if more of something good is needed. And it
          2. L8R7K2: shows you appreciate the time someone has put in coming up with this event for you, and inviting you.
        4. L8R3I9: Your RSVP answer AND comment can be changed at any time:just go to the event page and click “Change your mind about attending?”
          1. L8R3NE: This wording is unfortunately misleading; it should be say just “Change your RSVP answer & comment.”
        5. L8R3PZ: An easy & very effective way to make sure you’ve RSVPed to everything plus have a great picture of your schedule is NOT to depend on the event Email meetup sends you but to instead, at least once a day, keep going to http://Meetup.com until you see no more “RSVP »” –just click on everyone and RSVP with constructive comment, then click on the Meetup logo to go back http://Meetup.com until you see no more of these.
        6. L8R308: Generally, if you didn’t get around to RSVPing, Meetup sends event reminders of the form
          WhatIrvine Christian church holds *Muslim* service Sunday(to protest Quran burning)<== CLICK THIS:RSVP Now

          YES
          NO <== DON’T CLICK THESE

          but the “YES|MAYBE|NO” buttons do NOT easily allow you to enter a constructive comment (though they still bother to load the event page) therefore:

          1. L8R39Q: Do NOT click on the YES|MAYBE|NO buttons; instead click on the event link (under “What”) and there choose YES|MAYBE|NO and write your constructive comment.
          2. L8R5GL: If you still did click on the YES|MAYBE|NO buttons, then just go to the event page (under “What”) and click “Change your mind about attending?” (see above) just so you can add an RSVP comment.
          3. L8R5MZ: IMHO, Meetup should not even give these button options (a bad idea) as they seem to terribly contribute people not to write comments (unlike say eVite)
      3. L8O3GU: To every event invite sent to you, aim to RSVP, AND give a constructive comment –yes to EVERY one, even if you’re NOT coming– except only:

        1. L8O41I: if the event is already over (you missed the RSVP time) (but Meetup still allows you to post a Talk comment on the event page if something’s important to you) OR
        2. if you’re NOT going and the event has already gotten plenty of constructive feedback especially yours, due to at least one of these 4 exceptions:
          1. L8O50B: At least 2x, you’ve already RSVPed NO AND told why and your interest to this same kind of event from the same group, and nothing has changed (not your situation nor the event listing):
            1. L8O55S:Common examples for me. Meetup allows you to pick the group, but doesn’t allow you to filter for what sort of events you want to receive (such as within a certain radius of you or on particular topics).
              1. L8O5CJ: And I’m not into watching sporting events. So after a group (as Got-OC) has emailed me 2 or more invites to watch sporting events and I’ve twice RSVPed NO “I’m not into watching sports, but enjoy” , I don’t RSVP to any more of these if I’m not going.
              2. L8O5UQ: I’m in S. OC so LA is generally to far for me (over 1 hr drive), so after a group (as Let’s Dance) has emailed me invites to LA events and I’ve RSVPed NO “I’m in S. OC which is a +1hr drive for me, but enjoy!” more sporting events and I’m in S. OC but a group keeps emailing events in Los Angeles (which is about a 1hr drive)
          2. L8O4SF: The event already has at least 3 people giving the same NO RSVP comment you would give (letting organizers know clearly what the problem is)
          3. L8O3JV: The event already has >10 Meetup profiles RSVPing YES OR MAYBE (don’t count the extra guests they may bring)
          4. You just can’t easily keep up with the group’s many events as say the group has events on more than 2 days of every every week. Example: OC Good Life. While it’s fun to be on groups like these, you definitely don’t want these busy & already successful groups distracting you from the less appreciated groups which really need your attention.
  6. LAKZTP: Some more topics to be inserted here


  7. KVA16I:Document Background & History

    1. L8MFSZ: 2010.09.11pst2339 I DestinyArchitect “created & own this document”.

      1. L2MXTP:Confidentiality & Copyright: This document is copyrighted & could be confidential; specifically the document’s owner(s) require all having this document abide by LoveRules.Info ownership & access rights (on LoveRules.Info About) with no exceptions unless its owner(s) state otherwise below or here:” no exceptions now.
      2. KVA3T1:Initially formed by: copying as directedWritely doc KUJWXV http://docs.google.com/Edit?docid=0AX07OJ9W4BnBZGM2dnN4ZHdfMjQ3Nzk2Mzd4ZmsRevision 1238 -2010.08.07pst1118 (~99% complete 5th version)” to new Writely doc L8MFSZ https://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dc6vsxdw_342d8jtbqc6.
      3. KVA3VQ:Motive at creation:” Meetup groups need a mostly standard welcome message; I will start by moving to here content noted below.
      4. KVA3WV:Title at creation: desiring name”[Welcome to your Meetup group!]; “renamed to” title[Welcome to your Meetup group! L8MFU9].
      5. KVA579:Initially Published-at URL:” http://blogger.LoveRules.Info/2010/09/l8mfsz.html.
    2. ​20110906, created ​http://1.JotHere.com/q3x as a short redirectable link to this at the Published-at URL.
    3. ​Move the source document prior URL (sourcing last from Writely Revision 1239) to http://1.JotHere.com/422 by copying the the Writely HTML then pasting in as WordPress HTML.

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      ​Update ​​http://1.JotHere.com/q3x to the new Published-at URL.
    4. ​Remove TOC as is overkill for this short doc & very off-putting.​
    5. ​Did various cleanup editing, ​including putting “Outdated refs …” and “Earlier text …” in “font-size:70%;”
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      Meetup_group_welcom_LR6MOV.htm​; repositioned the hr-tag to be in the end of the section just prior to “History” instead of between, and corrected all nesting 100% to HTML5.
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<div id=”LR6FCX” class=”LOF32J”>
<div id=”LR6FGB” class=”LOF32J”>​<sup><a id=”L8MFU9″ class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8MFU9</a>:</sup> <strong>Welcome to your </strong> <a href=”http://Meetup.com”><strong>Meetup</strong></a><strong> group!</strong> <a href=”http://1.JotHere.com/q3x”>http://1.JotHere.com/q3x</a> <strong> -2011.09.08</strong>pst1820 (<strong>~75% complete 1st draft</strong>, in use now, lots of useful info, needs review in last big section):<a id=”kn7_” title=”http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://meetupblog.typepad.com/.a/6a011571d38234970b011571d45a22970b-500pi&amp;imgrefurl=http://meetupblog.meetup.com/kate/page/2/&amp;usg=__EkbH3rf7q18ad4WzRt7f0g0lhp0=&amp;h=270&amp;w=360&amp;sz=31&amp;hl=en&amp;start=25&amp;sig2=QI4zx6nPWg4LDTOL9JNNZw&amp;zoom=1&amp;tbnid=Hl1JNpivXRaT0M:&amp;tbnh=148&amp;tbnw=186&amp;ei=1buPTI_IGZCosAPXwIGyDg&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwelcome%2Bmeetup%2Bgroup%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1440%26bih%3D763%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C619&amp;itbs=1&amp;iact=hc&amp;vpx=862&amp;vpy=294&amp;dur=3855&amp;hovh=194&amp;hovw=259&amp;tx=137&amp;ty=46&amp;oei=TbqPTLWiMpL4swPF2_CxDg&amp;esq=7&amp;page=2&amp;ndsp=29&amp;ved=1t:429,r:12,s:25&amp;biw=1440&amp;bih=763″ href=”http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://meetupblog.typepad.com/.a/6a011571d38234970b011571d45a22970b-500pi&amp;imgrefurl=http://meetupblog.meetup.com/kate/page/2/&amp;usg=__EkbH3rf7q18ad4WzRt7f0g0lhp0=&amp;h=270&amp;w=360&amp;sz=31&amp;hl=en&amp;start=25&amp;sig2=QI4zx6nPWg4LDTOL9JNNZw&amp;zoom=1&amp;tbnid=Hl1JNpivXRaT0M:&amp;tbnh=148&amp;tbnw=186&amp;ei=1buPTI_IGZCosAPXwIGyDg&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwelcome%2Bmeetup%2Bgroup%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1440%26bih%3D763%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C619&amp;itbs=1&amp;iact=hc&amp;vpx=862&amp;vpy=294&amp;dur=3855&amp;hovh=194&amp;hovw=259&amp;tx=137&amp;ty=46&amp;oei=TbqPTLWiMpL4swPF2_CxDg&amp;esq=7&amp;page=2&amp;ndsp=29&amp;ved=1t:429,r:12,s:25&amp;biw=1440&amp;bih=763″><img style=”float: right; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 0pt;” src=”http://docs.google.com/File?id=dc6vsxdw_343dsw8tkj8_b” alt=”” width=”360″ height=”270″ /></a>​</div>
<div id=”LR6FER” class=”LOF32J” style=”text-align: right;”>​Essential introduction on us, and <em>for most any Meetup group you join!</em></div>
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<h1><a id=”_We_re_a_proud_follower_endors_17901534669251573″ name=”_We_re_a_proud_follower_endors_17901534669251573″></a><a id=”L4N2ZW” name=”L4N2ZW”></a> <sup><a id=”L8MGL0″ class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8MGL0</a>: </sup> “We’re a proud follower &amp; endorser of <a href=”http://blogger.loverules.info/2010/05/l2pfgy.html”>Universal Rules &amp; Guidelines for Meetup.com L2PFGY</a>!”<!–more–></h1>
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<li><sup><a id=”L8MGTI” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8MGTI</a>:</sup> In addition, per that, if we have additional rules &amp; guidelines, they will be specified in our Home Page description and About page. To know these and…</li>
<li><sup><a id=”L8MGX3″ class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8MGX3</a>:</sup> Know what we’re about, <strong>now read carefully at least our group’s Home Page description and skim the the About page </strong>if you haven’t already done so.</li>
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<li>
<h1>so as a consequence we have all the following:</h1>
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<h1><a id=”LA6GTJ_Standard_email_Welcome_” name=”LA6GTJ_Standard_email_Welcome_”></a><sup><a id=”LA6GTJ” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LA6GTJ</a>:</sup> Impressive standard “Welcome message to new members”</h1>
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<li><sup><a id=”LA6GYT” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LA6GYT</a>:</sup> <a href=”http://1.JotHere.com/ah9″>http://1.JotHere.com/ah9</a> : in ASCII text, ready for copy-and-paste into your Meetup group’s “Welcome message to new members” field:
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<div id=”LR4KW5″ class=”LOYNAM”>​“<a class=”LOF3Q8″ href=”#LR4KW5″><strong>Text LA6GTJ</strong></a>​ updated 20110906pst1118:</div>
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<strong>THANK YOU! for joining our Meetup group.</strong>We aim 4u2 hv a GREAT time +make our grp, now *ur* grp, Even Better!<strong>So we can KEEP u in our grp, NOW INSURE 5 THINGS: </strong>
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<strong><em> (1) MAKE UR GROUP PROFILE</em></strong> http://Meetup.com/&lt;GrpName&gt;/members/&lt;UrMeetupMbr#&gt; <strong><em>COMPLETE&amp;ACCURATE</em></strong>(2edit,on it click “Edit group profile”) including 4 REQUIREMENTS:
<div id=”LR4J71″ class=”LOF32J”>​ (a) <a href=”http://1.JotHere.com/9va”>UR *MAIN* PIC</a> clearly&amp;accurately&amp;fully shows ur face so anyone seeing it can then easily spot u in person(2meet-up 1must find!), including REAL,EYES+NOSE+MOUTH VISIBLE,FILLS FRAME,JUST U,&amp;CLOSEUP</div>
<div id=”LR4J7Z” class=”LOF32J”>​ (b) COMPLETELY ANSWER all non-optional profile Qs; note some Qs r really 2or3 Qs in 1</div>
<div id=”LR4J8K” class=”LOF32J”>​ (c) 4ur profile name, u CAN use (pseudonym or (1st name+last name initial)) PROVIDED it fairly unique</div>
<div id=”LR4J9H” class=”LOF32J”>​ (d) When viewing ur profile, click “Edit communication settings” then set all “Email me” 2YES (esp “Email me when this Meetup Group’s message board is updated” as we use only Message Boards as a lot more organized+updateable+wont clog ur email,unlike mailing lists)</div>
-ALL MEETUP GRPS APPRECIATE u doing these 4,&amp;some also require.

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<div id=”LR4JBD” class=”LOF32J”>​<strong><em> (2) RSVP TO AT LEAST 2 OF OUR UPCOMING EVENTS</em></strong>, ideally w/a enthusiastic constructive comments telling WHY as “YES: Love the DJ” or “YES: IF someone gives me a ride” or “NO: Cant stand DJ but enjoy”.</div>
<div id=”LR4JD8″ class=”LOF32J”><strong><em>​ (3) CAREFULLY READ OUR GRP INTROS:</em></strong> both Our “Home” page including “read more about us” + Our “About” page</div>
<div id=”LR4JDV” class=”LOF32J”>​<strong><em> (4) POST UR EVENT IDEAS:</em></strong> 4each,on our Home pg click “SUGGEST A NEW MEETUP”</div>
<div id=”LR4JEK” class=”LOF32J”>​<strong><em> (5) POST UR RELEVANT NEWS&amp;THOUGHTS</em></strong> in Message Boards.</div>
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<strong>*UR POSTS* ON OUR SITE</strong> (ur profile&amp;event suggestions&amp;RSVPs w/comments&amp;news&amp;more) IS WHAT DRIVES US &amp; INSPIRES OTHERS 2also get involved &amp;<strong> MAKES US THE GROUP U DESIRE!
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<strong>Why all this?</strong> “We’re a proud follower&amp;endorser of Universal Rules &amp; Guidelines for Meetup.com L2PFGY!”: see <a href=”http://1.JotHere.com/q3x”>“Welcome to your Meetup group! L8MFU9” http://1.JotHere.com/q3x</a> 4more 2make the most of us&amp;every Meetup group u join.</div>
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<strong>LkgFwd2 ur postings+seeing u@events!</strong>”</div>
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<div id=”LR4L2I” class=”LOF32J”>​This template (to be used for multiple Meetup groups ) was the motivation for creating this document.</div></li>
<li><sup><a id=”L8MGIO” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8MGIO</a>:</sup> Move to here the content of quote[## KROOZH: “Welcome message to new members”] in <a title=”Settings of UUYA! of Orange County,CA,US KRON1P” href=”http://blogger.loverules.info/2009/10/kron1p.html”>Settings of UUYA! of Orange County,CA,US KRON1P</a></li>
<li><sup><a id=”LA6JWS” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LA6JWS</a>:</sup> Created short-URL <a id=”hf0h” title=”http://bit.ly/cumFSr” href=”http://bit.ly/cumFSr”>http://bit.ly/cumFSr</a> to be used in the Greet “Per our new welcome page new-member email <a id=”y4r3″ title=”http://bit.ly/cumFSr#LA6GTJ” href=”http://bit.ly/cumFSr#LA6GTJ”>http://bit.ly/cumFSr#LA6GTJ</a> please insure “YOUR MAIN PHOTO clearly shows representative image of your face” and “YOU’VE COMPLETELY ANSWERED all our non-optional profile questions”.” or “Don, your idea http://meetup.com/AsianFriendster/ideas/237094 caught my attention to you. Please do the 4 quick things on our new welcome page new-member email http://bit.ly/cumFSr#LA6GTJ Thanks.”</li>
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<div id=”LR4KT7″ class=”LOF32J”>​Significant updates. Motivated &amp; some detailed <a href=”http://www.meetup.com/OCAndroid/messages/boards/thread/15545372/0/#53633012″>here</a>. including replace <a id=”hf0h0″ title=”http://bit.ly/cumFSr” href=”http://bit.ly/cumFSr”>http://bit.ly/cumFSr</a> with <a href=”http://1.JotHere.com/ah9″>http://1.JotHere.com/ah9</a> as that does better use-tracking &amp; redirectable. ​</div></li>
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​2011-09-09 02:54:30 today, created “Main pic policy of Text LA6GTJ​ of Universal Rules &amp; Guidelines for Meetup.com L2PFGY: <a href=”http://1.JotHere.com/9va”>http://1.JotHere.com/9va</a>” for refs startign <a href=”http://www.meetup.com/oc-php/messages/boards/thread/15670192/#53938482″>here</a> ​</div>
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<li><sup><a id=”LA6GTW” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LA6GTW</a>:</sup> Use this message to be (else prefix) your Meetup group’s “Welcome message to new members” in <a href=”http://www.meetup.com/%3CGroupName%3E/manage/settings/members”>http://www.meetup.com/&lt;GroupName&gt;/manage/settings/members</a> where it explains “New members receive an automatic email confirmation when they join this Meetup. You can add your own message to introduce yourself and encourage new members to RSVP for your next Meetup or fill out their profile.”</li>
<li><sup><a id=”LA6H1B” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LA6H1B</a>:</sup> <strong>Some of the places where this is used (
all of which are Meetup groups who announce &amp; do “We’re a proud follower &amp; endorser of <a href=”http://blogger.loverules.info/2010/05/l2pfgy.html”>Universal Rules &amp; Guidelines for Meetup.com L2PFGY</a>!”, providing this &amp; more):</strong>
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<li><sup><a id=”LAKYL0″ class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LAKYL0</a>:</sup> <a id=”sc4x” href=”http://Meetup.com/OCPERL/manage/settings/members”><strong id=”sc4x” title=”http://meetup.com/OCPERL/manage/settings/members”>Meetup.com/OCPERL</strong>/manage/settings/members</a></li>
<li><sup><a id=”LAKYNF” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LAKYNF</a>:</sup> <a id=”uth0″ href=”http://Meetup.com/AsianFriendster/manage/settings/members”><strong>Meetup.com/AsianFriendster</strong>/manage/settings/members</a></li>
<li><sup><a id=”LAKYPA” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LAKYPA</a>:</sup> <a id=”cr6v” href=”http://Meetup.com/UUYA-US-CA-OC/manage/settings/members”><strong>Meetup.com/UUYA-US-CA-OC</strong>/manage/settings/members</a></li>
<li><sup><a id=”LAKZ1Y” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LAKZ1Y</a>:</sup> <a id=”u_iu” href=”http://Meetup.com/OCUnix/manage/settings/members”><strong>Meetup.com/OCUnix</strong>/manage/settings/members</a></li>
<li><sup><a id=”LBDXHE” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LBDXHE</a>:</sup> <a id=”twh4″ href=”http://Meetup.com/OCAndroid/manage/settings/members”><strong>Meetup.com/OCAndroid</strong>/manage/settings/members</a></li>
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<li style=”font-size: 70%;”><a id=”The_following_earlier_text_onc” name=”The_following_earlier_text_onc”></a> <sup><a id=”L99Q2O” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L99Q2O</a>:</sup> Earlier text (once used by <a id=”a7ji” title=”http://Meetup.com/UUYA-US-CA-OC” href=”http://meetup.com/UUYA-US-CA-OC”>http://Meetup.com/UUYA-US-CA-OC</a>welcome) unalterted &amp; be incorporated into above:
<pre style=”white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;”>HELP US GET TO KNOW YOU &amp; VICE-VERSA!

TO DO NOW (&amp; ~every 6mo):

(1) PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR GROUP PROFILE IS COMPLETE&amp;CURRENT!! For every answer missing or incomplete, an organizer will likely be messaging u to kindly go back &amp;complete it, so pls save everyone time &amp; complete it now. On http://Meetup.com/UUYA-US-CA-OC/members click on your profile: if anything missing,incomplete,or outdated, click Edit &amp; fix. Leading gotchas:
(1a) <strong>INSURE YOUR PHOTO clearly shows representative image of ur face.</strong>
(1b) <strong>ANSWER ALL Qs &amp;COMPLETELY &amp;w/ latest info. Note some are combo-Qs needing 2-3 answers!</strong>
(1c) SELECT “Email me when this Meetup Group’s message board is updated”! (as that’s off by default). This is essential as we use only Message Boards (as they’re a lot more organized &amp; update-able,&amp; won’t clog up your email like mailing lists).
(1d) For “Link” Q, pls give ur personal website, such as your social networking web page (on MySpace, Facebook, etc) or other web page or bio about u.
(1e) For “Additional Information”, pls be sure to insert “See also my tiny Bio at http://Meetup.com/members/MyMbrNum ” where you replace MyMbrMbr with your member #.

(2) PLS COMPLETE/UPDATE THIS TINY BIO (above) as it’s shared by all your Meetup groups. Include the main school u graduated fr else are attending including your major &amp; degree, the company or at least industry in which you work and your work title (what sort of work do you do), and ur personal interests &amp; philosophies/values and perhaps what sort of people you especially like and want to meet.

(3) BRING 1 or 2 PRINTOUTS OF YOUR PROFILE WHENEVER WE MEET, as it really helps everyone get to know each other. On one side print ur group profile and on the other side print ur main Meetup profile.

(4) POST EVENTS,IDEAS, &amp; DISCUSSIONS HERE! It’s easier than you think. See http://Blogger.LoveRules.Info/2009/10/krl2tu.html#L3EGGB_Please_post_on_the_area

Thx4helping everyone discover each other

–Now watch the magic begin! :-)</pre>
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<h1>In addition to <a id=”i1ln” title=”&quot;Text LA6GTJ … THANK YOU! for joining our Meetup group.&quot;” href=”http://2.loverules.info/ah9″>”Text LA6GTJ … THANK YOU! for joining our Meetup group.”</a>, some further details which just wouldn’t fit there</h1>
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​RE “(1) MAKE UR GROUP PROFILE <a href=”http://Meetup.com/%3CGrpName%3E/members/%3CUrMeetupMbr#%3E%20COMPLETE&amp;ACCURATE”>http://Meetup.com/&lt;GrpName&gt;/members/&lt;UrMeetupMbr#&gt; COMPLETE&amp;ACCURATE</a>”​
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<li><sup><a id=”LAKZEW” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LAKZEW</a>:</sup> <strong>For “Link” give ur main web profile</strong> (as ur MySpace/Facebook).</li>
<li><sup><a id=”LAKZF5″ class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LAKZF5</a>:</sup> <strong>For “Additional Information”</strong> insert “See also my main Meetup profile &amp;bio at http://Meetup.com/members/&lt;YourMeetupMember#&gt; ”</li>
<li><sup><a id=”LAKZFD” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LAKZFD</a>:</sup> <strong>PLS COMPLETE/UPDATE THIS TINY BIO</strong> (above) as it’s shared by all your Meetup groups. Include the main school u graduated fr else are attending including your major &amp; degree, the company or at least industry in which you work and your work title (what sort of work do you do), and ur personal interests &amp; philosophies/values and perhaps what sort of people you especially like and want to meet.</li>
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​RE “esp[ say YES2] “Email me when this Meetup Group’s message board is updated””​
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<li><sup><a id=”LAKZQ0″ class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LAKZQ0</a>:</sup> -absolute minimal email: only results in at most 1 email being set to you today, no matter how many groups you join</li>
<li><sup><a id=”LAKZR4″ class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LAKZR4</a>:</sup> -tragically off by default, why we have to remind everyone</li>
<li><sup><a id=”LAKZJX” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LAKZJX</a>:</sup> to edit this and other communication settings, when viewing ur group profile, click “Edit email settings” http://Meetup.com/&lt;GroupName&gt;/settings</li>
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<li><a id=”LAKZHU_SELECT_Email_me_when_th_5806064192558754″ name=”LAKZHU_SELECT_Email_me_when_th_5806064192558754″></a> <sup><a id=”L8O3EO” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8O3EO</a>:</sup>SELECT “Email me when this Meetup Group’s message board is updated”
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<li><sup><a id=”LAKZIT” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LAKZIT</a>:</sup> -key as we use only Message Boards (unlike mailing lists, a lot more organized &amp;update-able &amp;won’t clog up ur email).</li>
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<li><sup><a id=”LAKY4F” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LAKY4F</a>:</sup> YOUR MAIN PHOTO clearly shows your face as you appear in person</li>
<li><sup><a id=”LAKY7W” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>LAKY7W</a>:</sup> U’VE COMPLETELY ANSWERED all our non-optional profile Qs; note some Qs are really 2 or 3Qs in 1</li>
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​RE “<strong>*UR POSTS* ON OUR SITE …MAKES US THE GROUP U DESIRE!</strong>”​
<div id=”LR4KF1″ class=”LOF32J”>​see the important expansion of this idea at <a class=”LOF3Q8″ href=”#LR4K8V”>for your group’s heart beat, we’re counting on <em>you personally</em></a></div>
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<h1><sup><a id=”L8MH71″ class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8MH71</a>:</sup> This group is gets its life-blood from <em>you</em>, yes, you its member. So, <a class=”LOF3Q8″ href=”http://LLQPB8.JotHere.com#LR4K8V”>for your group’s heart beat, we’re counting on <em>you personally</em></a> to</h1>
<strong>(1) RSVP &amp; constructively speak-up,</strong>

<strong>(2) post thoughts &amp; news &amp; event-suggestions, and</strong>

<strong>(3) volunteer to help</strong>

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<h2><a id=”L8MHEV_If_you_don_t_or_do_you__1817981551300154″ name=”L8MHEV_If_you_don_t_or_do_you__1817981551300154″></a><sup><a id=”L8MHEV” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8MHEV</a>:</sup> By this, <em>you</em> decide your group’s fate…</h2>
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<li><sup><a id=”L8MHG0″ class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8MHG0</a>:</sup> If you do this, we your group will become the group you want us to be.</li>
<li>If you don’t do this (and no one else is besides the organizers and less than 10% of the others), then your group here will likely eventually die.</li>
<li>You make that decision! So constructively SPEAK-UP!<strong style=”color: #000000;”>If this group is to be a success for you (and for everyone), <em>we all are depending on <span style=”text-decoration: underline;”>you</span> to speak up, and suggest activities (use our Ideas menu), and volunteer to host or help with an activity.</em></strong></li>
<li><sup><a id=”L8R6VR” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8R6VR</a>:</sup> <strong>Just keep quiet &amp; lurk about? –No way! </strong> Now that you’re a member, don’t even <em>think </em>about doing that. <strong>As a member, your job is to constructively speak up &amp; volunteer!</strong></li>
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<li><sup><a id=”L8P6U9″ class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8P6U9</a>:</sup> Live up to The Golden Rule (<span style=”color: #000000;”>“Do onto others as you’d have them do onto you”</span>)</li>
<li><sup><a id=”L8P6P7″ class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8P6P7</a>:</sup> <span style=”color: #000000;”>Live up to <a title=”UU principle #1″ href=”http://blogger.loverules.info/2010/05/l2mypi.html#L2OXVQ”>UU principles</a> #1&amp;2 (“The inherent worth and dignity of every person” &amp; “Justice, equity and compassion in human relations”)</span></li>
<li><span style=”color: #000000;”><sup><a id=”L8P7ZM” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8P7ZM</a>:</sup>If you just reply (and in complete &amp; timely fashion), then you spare yourself from being reminded to do (including additional messages) so plus spare others (organizers, leaders, and other askers) the work to remind you (which is significant in as a group grows)</span></li>
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<h2><a id=”L8MHRN_GOLDEN_SUPPORT_RULE_The_765030502864591″ name=”L8MHRN_GOLDEN_SUPPORT_RULE_The_765030502864591″></a><strong><sup><a id=”L8MHRN” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8MHRN</a>:</sup> </strong>GOLDEN SUPPORT RULE: The <em>less </em>you see some event/group/person <em>getting </em>constructive feedback/responses/volunteers, the <em>more </em>you need to <em>give them </em>constructive feedback/responses/volunteers.</h2>
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<li><sup><a id=”L8MI3S” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8MI3S</a>:</sup> Fight the sheep mentality to only go &amp; act when &amp; where everyone else is doing it, too.</li>
<li><sup><a id=”L8MHUV” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8MHUV</a>:</sup> If hardly no one else responding, your group event/person is in trouble so you definitely need to be one of the first. Seaze the opportunity to be the first to speak up &amp; the first to say or do something.</li>
<li><sup><a id=”L8MHWW” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8MHWW</a>:</sup> Only if you and/or sufficient others have told them clearly and they’re still not appropriately responsive, only <span style=”text-decoration: underline;”><em>then</em></span> do you have a legit excuse not to reply.</li>
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<li><sup><a id=”L8O304″ class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8O304</a>:</sup> Groups such as <a id=”ncpg” title=”UU* YOUNG ADULTS! of OC” href=”http://Meetup.com/UUYA-US-CA-OC”>UU* YOUNG ADULTS! of OC</a> (with 28 members and) and <a id=”wih1″ title=”OC Perl” href=”http://www.meetup.com/OCPerl”>OC Perl</a> (with just 15 member), both with just 1 organizer, need virtually everyone’s feedback in order to survive.</li>
<li><sup><a id=”L8O30D” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8O30D</a>:</sup> But sometimes big groups are in this situation, too: <a id=”utd0″ title=”AsianFriendster” href=”http://Meetup.com/AsianFriendster”>AsianFriendster</a>, despite it currently having 270 members and 2 organizers, also needs your feedback &amp; volunteering (if you’re on it) as as the prior 232 members were burnt out by poor events of the prior organizers.</li>
<li><sup><a id=”L8O3CM” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8O3CM</a>:</sup> But generally bigger groups, as <a id=”th0e” title=”OC Good Life” href=”http://meetup.com/OC-Good-Life”>OC Good Life</a> with 1469 members and 20 organizers, has plenty of feedback (~20 to 100 RSVP YES per event!), so you can often skip giving feedback to (but still do RSVP YES if you’re going to attend) as these smaller budding groups are where your constructive feedback is needed.</li>
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<li><sup><a id=”L8O8J7″ class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8O8J7</a>:</sup> On Meetup, RSVPs are visible to all group members (and often the world); so your group has event which isn’t getting RSVPs with constructive comments, then you’re group looks bad to the world — don’t stand for that! RSVP with constructive comment.</li>
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<li><sup><a id=”L8R2VN” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8R2VN</a>:</sup> <strong>For instance,</strong>
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<li><sup><a id=”L8R65D” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8R65D</a>:</sup> <a title=”member Craig P” href=”http://meetup.com/UUYA-US-CA-OC/members/7517416/”>UUYA! of OC member Craig P</a> <a title=”RSVPed” href=”http://meetup.com/UUYA-US-CA-OC/calendar/14731755/”>RSVPed</a> NO with “I will be out of town but I like the spirit of this. Thanks.”.</li>
<li><sup><a id=”L8R67B” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8R67B</a>:</sup> I’ve often RSVP’d NO with “I’m in S. OC so LA is a +1hr drive for me, but enjoy!”</li>
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<li><sup><a id=”L8R7D0″ class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8R7D0</a>:</sup> <strong>Even when saying YES, it’s nice to your group to take a few seconds to write a constructive comment</strong> (again why you’re coming, and what interests/disinterests you)</li>
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<li><sup><a id=”L8R636″ class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8R636</a>:</sup> <strong>…as your RSVP comment feedback is:</strong>
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<li><sup><a id=”L8R7IQ” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8R7IQ</a>:</sup> <strong>very useful</strong>, especially when something needs fixed or if more of something good is needed. And it</li>
<li><sup><a id=”L8R7K2″ class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8R7K2</a>:</sup> <strong>shows you appreciate the time someone has put in</strong> coming up with this event for you, and inviting you.</li>
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<li><sup><a id=”L8R3I9″ class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8R3I9</a>:</sup> <strong>Your RSVP answer AND comment can be changed at any time:</strong>just go to the event page and click “Change your mind about attending?”
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<li><sup><a id=”L8R3NE” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8R3NE</a>:</sup> This wording is unfortunately misleading; it should be say just “Change your RSVP answer &amp; comment.”</li>
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<li><sup><a id=”L8R3PZ” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8R3PZ</a>:</sup> <strong>An easy &amp; very effective way to make sure you’ve RSVPed to everything plus have a great picture of your schedule </strong>is NOT to depend on the event Email meetup sends you but to instead, at least once a day, keep going to http://Meetup.com until you see no more “<a class=”D_linkButton” style=”background-color: #351c75;” href=”http://www.meetup.com/SinglesOdyssey/calendar/14345314/”>RSVP <span class=”arrow”>»</span></a>” –just click on everyone and RSVP <em>with </em>constructive comment, then click on the Meetup logo to go back http://Meetup.com until you see no more of these.</li>
<li><sup><a id=”L8R308″ class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8R308</a>:</sup> Generally, if you didn’t get around to RSVPing, Meetup sends event reminders of the form
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<li><sup><a id=”L8R5GL” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8R5GL</a>:</sup> <strong>If you still did click on the YES|MAYBE|NO buttons</strong>, then just go to the event page (under “What”) and click “Change your mind about attending?” (see above) just so you can add an RSVP comment.</li>
<li><sup><a id=”L8R5MZ” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8R5MZ</a>:</sup> IMHO, Meetup should not even give these button options (a bad idea) as they seem to terribly contribute people not to write comments (unlike say eVite)</li>
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<li><sup><a id=”L8O50B” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8O50B</a>:</sup> <strong>At least 2x, you’ve already RSVPed NO AND told why and your interest to this same kind of event from the same group, and nothing has changed </strong>(not your situation nor the event listing):
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<li><sup><a id=”L8O55S” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8O55S</a>:</sup>Common examples for me. Meetup allows you to pick the group, but doesn’t allow you to filter for what sort of events you want to receive (such as within a certain radius of you or on particular topics).
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<li><sup><a id=”L8O5CJ” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8O5CJ</a>:</sup> And I’m not into watching sporting events. So after a group (as Got-OC) has emailed me 2 or more invites to watch sporting events and I’ve twice RSVPed NO “I’m not into watching sports, but enjoy” , I don’t RSVP to any more of these if I’m not going.</li>
<li><sup><a id=”L8O5UQ” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8O5UQ</a>:</sup> I’m in S. OC so LA is generally to far for me (over 1 hr drive), so after a group (as Let’s Dance) has emailed me invites to LA events and I’ve RSVPed NO “I’m in S. OC which is a +1hr drive for me, but enjoy!” more sporting events and I’m in S. OC but a group keeps emailing events in Los Angeles (which is about a 1hr drive)</li>
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<li><sup><a id=”L8O4SF” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8O4SF</a>:</sup> <strong>The event already has at least 3 people giving the same NO RSVP comment you would give</strong> (letting organizers know clearly what the problem is)</li>
<li><sup><a id=”L8O3JV” class=”aself_KEP2FG”>L8O3JV</a>:</sup> <strong>The event already has &gt;10 Meetup profiles RSVPing YES OR MAYBE</strong> (don’t count the extra guests they may bring)</li>
<li><strong>You just can’t easily keep up with the group’s many events as say the group has events on more than 2 days of every every week.</strong> Example: OC Good Life. While it’s fun to be on groups like these, you definitely don’t want these busy &amp; already successful groups distracting you from the less appreciated groups which really need your attention.</li>
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